Pro Nazi? Us?
Pro-Nazi? Partial to fascism? Sympathetic to Nazism. These are some of the comments that come up. The truth is far from that. This impression was perhaps created because we carry more pictures from German sources. There is a reason for that. The victors (Russia, America, Britain...) tend to give out only those images that show them in good light. And they are dull! Who said propaganda is entertaining? The pictures taken by Germans are very interesting because the source; Nazi Germany itself disappeared. There was no one to control which images were to be released. And they are fascinating. They show war as it was. Not the way someone wanted us to see it.
We repeat. WE ARE NOT PRO-NAZI.
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Rare British WW1 Propaganda Posters

A British recruitment poster

'Blood and Iron' by Charles Ernest Butler.
The painting is dated 1916, two years after the events it depicts. Kaiser Wilhelm, on horseback with the Angel of Death at his shoulder, turns aside from leading his troops into further action. The response of the man on the ground is defiant but emasculated and Christ, too, is neutered, limited to the role of offering succour. In the background, the Belgian town of Louvain burns.
The work shows no obvious hero to resolve the chaos and destruction. Instead it calls out to the viewer to step forward, to take on the challenge of what looks like an Arthurian quest, and to defeat the foe.
In this work Butler depicts the horrors of war, not as a pacifist statement but rather to encourage the recruitment of men to fight the evil of German aggression, personified in the Kaiser. Although this was neither a commissioned painting nor authorised in any respect, it carries a strongly populist message about the war. It is part of a body of work that described German atrocities with an almost pornographic relish, both in attempting to motivate people to resist aggression, and to justify the Allied war effort.
Text: BBC
A Punch cartoon from 1915 depicting the stalemate on the Eastern Front
British navy recruitment poster
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WHY WAS THE FIGHTING ON THE RUSSIAN FRONT SO FIERCE DURING WW2?
It is difficult to distinguish between the quality of both the German and Russian soldiers. Both were motivated by their love for their motherland. But there were others factors that drove the two sides to such desperate fighting.
One, both sides knew that this was a no-holds bar war. Not fighting was thus not an option.
Second, both Hitler and Stalin had squads that killed any deserter. Turning away from fighting was just not possible.
Thus was seen some of the most bitter, brutal and desperate fighting on the WW2 eastern (Russian) Front.
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-- George Santayana
Quotes....
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Senior Observer said...The reason the German soldier did not rape and loot as the other armies did. Including the US. (I was there) was the disciplin. Half the troops or at least a great number of troops on my train to the front were AWOL's or deserters. That would not have happened in the German military. You left your post you were shot. Simple as that. Germans knew that so deserting was not an option. But the ordinary soldier knew that also applied to the officers. You did your duty or else.Remember Rommel? Hitler didn't care. Just follow orders. The respect for the officer by the ordinary soldier was good. I didn't have much respect for our officers. For months after the war we were still drinking instant coffee and instant milk. The general was living it up in London I suppose because I never saw him afterwards even though I was in 3rd DIVARTY Have a nice day
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"ever heard of the saying two wrongs don't make a right. yes they lost ww1, but they started it so they got their just deserts. and hitler was pure evil,theres no doubt he was a great leader and orator that took advantage of a country in despair. he stood by people that were simular to him and used them to 'persuade' others in high places to flock to his banner. once in power it was easy to unite a nation with his speaches that germeny could rule the world at ANY cost, the hatetred between germany and russia was legendry with both country's sinking to new levels of barbarism.as for russia killing millions of their own under stalin, yes, that was an atocity in itself but it was an internal matter in russia. nothing to do with the west. germany treated the russians as less than human in fact, less than the jews and the feelings were neutral. the battle of stalingrad were tesamony to that. so picking someone to like because they killed 21m instead of 65m is just sick and shows what sort of person you really are. i will say though that although these pictures are interesting, dont belive everything that they show. the picture at the top seems to show two peasants being shot, both are women so we asume that they are inocents. not so, women fought along side their men with amazing efect. rusian women were excellent marksmen and made effective snipers and machine gunners. not behind them a machingun nest. its more likely that the machingun nest was overun and they are being shot for shooting german soldiers. that being said, it saddens me to say that many of the pictures do depict atrocities that the devil himself would be ashamed of.having never been in a war, i can't imagine what humans would go through under such horrific conditions. knowing death was just around the corner probly turned the most mild mannered men and women into monsters. im not going to justify there actions or condone them but to understand what they went through. i hope for all our sakes we never have to go through anything like it again. but i think we will."Anonymous on Nazi Germany: A Pictorial History
Quotes....
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"When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
--Winston Churchill
Quotes....
"In time of war the loudest patriots are the greatest profiteers."
--August Bebel
"God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best."
--Voltaire
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I think it's important to remember that the German army at this time was one of the most disciplined fighting forces in the world. It's the reason Hitler made them swear an oath on his rise to Fuhrer; he knew they wouldn't break it.That unflinching devotion to service and country would be their undoing, eventually - there were many suicides in combat. German soldiers who just couldn't deal with the brutality anymore - and the crime. Even leadership attempted to murder Hitler several times.The Nazis were Germans, but the Germans weren't Nazis. Not all German soldiers were so criminally cruel. Most criminal cruelty was perpetrated not by the German Army, but by the Nazis and their divisions (SS, Gestapo, etc)(Brutality Of Germans In Russia)-- By Anonymous
Quotes about War....
"Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield will think hard before starting a war."
---Otto von Bismarck
Quotes....
"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
--Hermann Goering
Great Comments From You
Umm... you just used the phrase "according to Wikipedia". You do understand that there is a reason colleges don't allow students to use information from Wikipedia, don't you? People are free to edit the information as they see fit, thus leading to glaring inaccuracies and misinformation. And, of course, if I were to say that the 6 million number was Jewish/Allied propaganda you would probably scream, rant, and rave about how that was an accurate number. Even though the number of Jews in the area that Germany took over there were only around 6 million Jews to start with. Over a million of them officially migrated to Russia before the war, and another million to the USA and other countries. Which would have given them only 4 million to hunt down. Can you honestly tell me that once the war actually started that none of those remaining 4 million didn't run and hide until the war was over? The 6 million number came from a Reader's Digest article from the late thirties, go look it up. There may have been 6 million deaths in the camps total, but they weren't all Jewish. As a matter of fact Jews generally only comprised 5-10% of the camp populations during the war. The point is, history is written by the victors, and Germany didn't win. Thus, they were immediately demonized to make the allied atrocities fade into the back ground. Like the blockade that the allies put on Greece, starving over a million Greeks to death. I'm not defending the Nazi's. I just wish the world would wake up and realize that both sides were horrible, both sides published ridiculous propaganda, and both committed atrocities. The Allies' atrocities were stricken from the records or downsized, while the Nazi atrocities were blown completely out of proportion. It's just human nature, deal with it.
Quotes....
"To conquer the enemy without resorting to war is the most desirable. The highest form of generalship is to conquer the enemy by strategy."
--Tzu Sun
"All men are brothers, like the seas throughout the world; So why do winds and waves clash so fiercely everywhere?"
--Emperor Hirohito
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